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		<title>Comment on What the hell&#8230; by Animal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 03:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Larry!  It had us more than a bit curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Larry!  It had us more than a bit curious.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the hell&#8230; by Larry Sheldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a passive microwave repeater,  there are (or were) two microwave stations down in the valley(s).  The active stations were close enough (via the path) but because of the terrain could not &quot;see&quot; each other.

Radio at microwave frequencies (like light) are line-of-sight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_repeater</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a passive microwave repeater,  there are (or were) two microwave stations down in the valley(s).  The active stations were close enough (via the path) but because of the terrain could not &#8220;see&#8221; each other.</p>
<p>Radio at microwave frequencies (like light) are line-of-sight.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_repeater" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_repeater</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What the hell&#8230; by Animal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately I&#039;m done hunting big stuff for the year - I have to prepare for a trip to Alabama that came up at short notice.  We missed the snow up there by, what, 24 hours?  Figures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I&#8217;m done hunting big stuff for the year &#8211; I have to prepare for a trip to Alabama that came up at short notice.  We missed the snow up there by, what, 24 hours?  Figures.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the hell&#8230; by Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like a flat surface for bouncing a signal.

Getting some snow up here. The elk and deer will be coming down. Put those tags to good use! Stop by if you are in the area. 

Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a flat surface for bouncing a signal.</p>
<p>Getting some snow up here. The elk and deer will be coming down. Put those tags to good use! Stop by if you are in the area. </p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the hell&#8230; by Animal</title>
		<link>http://www.frombearcreek.com/wordpress/?p=5150#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 03:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That’s what we thought, but the only thing around it could possibly bounce a signal from is a cell phone tower – and what purpose would that serve? It is a trifle baffling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s what we thought, but the only thing around it could possibly bounce a signal from is a cell phone tower – and what purpose would that serve? It is a trifle baffling.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the hell&#8230; by Bret Ginx Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret Ginx Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 03:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had to guess, it&#039;s for providing a static, flat surface for bouncing a signal.  That or target practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had to guess, it&#8217;s for providing a static, flat surface for bouncing a signal.  That or target practice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of the &#8216;Ethical Vegan&#8217; by Animal</title>
		<link>http://www.frombearcreek.com/wordpress/?p=5133#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It remains to be seen if it will last or not; but it was exciting to see my name on that page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It remains to be seen if it will last or not; but it was exciting to see my name on that page.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of the &#8216;Ethical Vegan&#8217; by The Heathen Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Heathen Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on hitting the big time. We small timers can only dream of such heights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on hitting the big time. We small timers can only dream of such heights.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mittwoch Musings by Animal</title>
		<link>http://www.frombearcreek.com/wordpress/?p=5113#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, I&#039;ll expand on that a little bit.  In 2004, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epa.gov/ogwdw/uic/pdfs/cbmstudy_attach_uic_final_fact_sheet.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EPA studied this issue&lt;/a&gt; and found &lt;em&gt;&quot;In its review of incidents of drinking water well contamination believed to be associated with hydraulic fracturing, EPA found no confirmed cases that are linked to fracturing fluid injection into CBM wells or subsequent underground movement of fracturing fluids. Further, although thousands of CBM wells are fractured annually, EPA did not find confirmed evidence that drinking water wells have been contaminated by hydraulic fracturing fluid injection into CBM wells. Where fluids are injected, EPA believes that groundwater production, combined with mitigating effects of dilution and dispersion, adsorption, and biodegradation, minimize the possibility that chemicals included in fracturing fluids would adversely affect USDWs.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

I found one EPA study with positive results, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epa.gov/region8/superfund/wy/pavillion/PavillionAnalyticalResultsReport.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a 2010 study&lt;/a&gt; in Wyoming.  Even those results were minimal:  &quot;&lt;em&gt;A number of nearby drinking water and stock wells have low level detections of organic
compounds such as phenols, benzene, and naphthalene. Seventeen of 19 drinking water wells sampled show detections of Total Petroleum Hydrocarbons. Two drinking water wells sampled in January 2010 had constituents detected by EPA that exceeded a primary drinking water standard. One well, which was not being used for drinking water during the sampling event, exceeded the primary drinking water standards for lead and phthalate. The other drinking water well exceeded one standard for nitrates. This well owner also had the same exceedance during the Phase 1 sampling and was notified at each incident and was provided with assistance.  Four pesticides were detected in 4 private wells at very low concentrations, less than 10 parts per trillion.  EPA was able to confirm and quantify the concentrations of some of the Tentatively Identified Compounds (TICs) found during our March 2009 sampling event. Eleven wells were confirmed to have 2-butoxyethanol phosphate, or 2-BEP, at very low concentrations (less than 5 ppb). The compound 2- BEP is not a constituent typically found in drinking water wells. A USGS national groundwater study using similar detection limits detected 2-BEP in only 1 of around 200 wells sampled.  Methane identified in 7 drinking water wells was found to be of thermogenic origin, meaning it originated within the natural gas reservoir. One drinking water well showed methane resulting from microbial activity, known as biogenic methane.  Adamantane compounds were also confirmed in 4 drinking wells at low concentrations.  Adamantane compounds are commonly associated with hydrocarbon production fluids, and can be found in other products.  EPA also performed analysis of the bacteria present in groundwater at some well locations. This
information is indicative of the level of microbial activity in groundwater. The microbial organisms that were identified are not organisms that are harmful to health, but could lead to concerns with odor.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

Finally, in June of this year, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology&lt;a href=&quot;http://web.mit.edu/mitei/research/studies/documents/natural-gas-2011/NaturalGas_ExecutiveSummary.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; studied the issue&lt;/a&gt; and concluded, &quot;&lt;em&gt;The environmental impacts of shale development are challenging but manageable. Shale development requires large-scale fracturing of the shale formation to induce economic production rates. There has been concern that these fractures can also penetrate shallow freshwater zones and contaminate them with fracturing fluid, but there is no evidence that this is occurring. There is, however, evidence of natural gas migration into freshwater zones in some areas, most likely as a result of  substandard well completion practices by a few operators.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;  In other words, operators that are failing to comply with existing standards, that apparently MIT and EPA deem adequate.

On this issue, Bret, you are quite simply wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, I&#8217;ll expand on that a little bit.  In 2004, the <a href="http://www.epa.gov/ogwdw/uic/pdfs/cbmstudy_attach_uic_final_fact_sheet.pdf" rel="nofollow">EPA studied this issue</a> and found <em>&#8220;In its review of incidents of drinking water well contamination believed to be associated with hydraulic fracturing, EPA found no confirmed cases that are linked to fracturing fluid injection into CBM wells or subsequent underground movement of fracturing fluids. Further, although thousands of CBM wells are fractured annually, EPA did not find confirmed evidence that drinking water wells have been contaminated by hydraulic fracturing fluid injection into CBM wells. Where fluids are injected, EPA believes that groundwater production, combined with mitigating effects of dilution and dispersion, adsorption, and biodegradation, minimize the possibility that chemicals included in fracturing fluids would adversely affect USDWs.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>I found one EPA study with positive results, <a href="http://www.epa.gov/region8/superfund/wy/pavillion/PavillionAnalyticalResultsReport.pdf" rel="nofollow">a 2010 study</a> in Wyoming.  Even those results were minimal:  &#8220;<em>A number of nearby drinking water and stock wells have low level detections of organic<br />
compounds such as phenols, benzene, and naphthalene. Seventeen of 19 drinking water wells sampled show detections of Total Petroleum Hydrocarbons. Two drinking water wells sampled in January 2010 had constituents detected by EPA that exceeded a primary drinking water standard. One well, which was not being used for drinking water during the sampling event, exceeded the primary drinking water standards for lead and phthalate. The other drinking water well exceeded one standard for nitrates. This well owner also had the same exceedance during the Phase 1 sampling and was notified at each incident and was provided with assistance.  Four pesticides were detected in 4 private wells at very low concentrations, less than 10 parts per trillion.  EPA was able to confirm and quantify the concentrations of some of the Tentatively Identified Compounds (TICs) found during our March 2009 sampling event. Eleven wells were confirmed to have 2-butoxyethanol phosphate, or 2-BEP, at very low concentrations (less than 5 ppb). The compound 2- BEP is not a constituent typically found in drinking water wells. A USGS national groundwater study using similar detection limits detected 2-BEP in only 1 of around 200 wells sampled.  Methane identified in 7 drinking water wells was found to be of thermogenic origin, meaning it originated within the natural gas reservoir. One drinking water well showed methane resulting from microbial activity, known as biogenic methane.  Adamantane compounds were also confirmed in 4 drinking wells at low concentrations.  Adamantane compounds are commonly associated with hydrocarbon production fluids, and can be found in other products.  EPA also performed analysis of the bacteria present in groundwater at some well locations. This<br />
information is indicative of the level of microbial activity in groundwater. The microbial organisms that were identified are not organisms that are harmful to health, but could lead to concerns with odor.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, in June of this year, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology<a href="http://web.mit.edu/mitei/research/studies/documents/natural-gas-2011/NaturalGas_ExecutiveSummary.pdf" rel="nofollow"> studied the issue</a> and concluded, &#8220;<em>The environmental impacts of shale development are challenging but manageable. Shale development requires large-scale fracturing of the shale formation to induce economic production rates. There has been concern that these fractures can also penetrate shallow freshwater zones and contaminate them with fracturing fluid, but there is no evidence that this is occurring. There is, however, evidence of natural gas migration into freshwater zones in some areas, most likely as a result of  substandard well completion practices by a few operators.</em>&#8221;  In other words, operators that are failing to comply with existing standards, that apparently MIT and EPA deem adequate.</p>
<p>On this issue, Bret, you are quite simply wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mittwoch Musings by Animal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I don’t take you very seriously, Bret; you complain of a source being biased even though your own are not only biased but frequently don’t even support your assertions, and you answer with an ipse dixit supported with… well, nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I don’t take you very seriously, Bret; you complain of a source being biased even though your own are not only biased but frequently don’t even support your assertions, and you answer with an ipse dixit supported with… well, nothing.</p>
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